• 281: Anonymous Hamptons Confessions, Meghan Quits Podcasting + the Bezos Wedding Begins
    Jun 25 2025

    Lauren and Chanler spiral through the chaos of quitting corporate life, the psychosis of mushroom pilots, and why Planet Bibi wants you to orgasm for an hour. They unpack Meghan and Harry’s long game (including a 2027 olive branch??), compare two wildly tone-deaf weddings, and read anonymous Hampton confessions that will make you think twice before trusting any Birkin. Plus: what Alex Cooper’s doc revealed, and how a TikTok account inspires Lauren.


    (00:00) 🧠 Chanler’s Meta exit, full-time freedom, and reclaiming her brain

    (08:05) ✈️ Plane crash psychosis + how to boof your way out of a nosedive

    (13:02) 🍄 Pilot on mushrooms and Lauren’s derealization trip in Mexico

    (19:07) 💦 Planet Bibi's 25 orgasms + bedroom ergonomics exposed

    (23:04) 🎧 Alex Cooper’s doc, her stalker coach, and becoming a one-woman media empire

    (29:01) 🎙️ Meghan Markle ends her podcast (again) + Emma Grede keeps it real

    (32:46) 👑 Meghan & Harry’s 2027 olive branch, royal family freeze-out, and Charles shade

    (36:55) 💒 Blake’s plantation wedding backlash + Bezos & Lauren’s chaotic Venice plans

    (41:01) 📱 Taylor and Blake’s texts ruled admissible—what are they hiding?

    (44:46) 🏛️ Daily Dose Donna’s site visit + Blake’s wedding venue in question

    (51:21) 💼 Hamptons club debt, fake Birkins, and financial denial in zip code 11937

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  • 280: How Miley Cyrus Wrote Off Illicit Items ft. Nora Princiotti
    Jun 18 2025

    This one’s for the girls who grew up on TRL, cried to Fearless, and low-key still know all the words to “He Could Be the One.” Nora Princiotti joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about the evolution of authenticity in pop, Miley’s totally unfiltered bombshells, and whether Taylor Swift might be pulling off the greatest long game in music history.

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    📖 Hit Girls by Nora Princiotti

    🎧 Every Single Album


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    (00:00) 🎤 Introduction — Meet Nora Princiotti and the book that rewrites pop history: Hit Girls.

    (04:58) 👩‍🎤 Authenticity in Pop — Ashlee Simpson, Avril Lavigne, and why being “real” became a trap.

    (10:22) 🎧 Poptimism vs Rockism — What’s “real music” anyway? We dive into the early 2000s’ biggest culture war.

    (19:00) 🌸 Interviewing Miley Cyrus — Nora’s interview with Miley, unfiltered stories, and emotional honesty from the popstar.

    (26:00) 💿 Miley Album Recs — Where to start if you’ve only heard “Flowers” and “Party in the U.S.A.”

    (36:10) 🎶 “Since U Been Gone” — The story behind Kelly Clarkson’s scream-your-heart-out hit and the pop comeback no one saw coming.

    (43:56) 🪩 Taylor Swift — The rerecords, the rage, and her business plays... Did she devalue her own masters on purpose?

    (47:58) 👑 Brat Summer & Cowboy Carter — Cultural saturation, chart performance, and what we’re actually listening to.

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  • 279: Blake Lively Wins Big
    Jun 11 2025

    If you like chaos, congratulations, this episode is tailor-made for you. We’ve got major courtroom drama in the Blake Lively vs Justin Baldoni case, Taylor Swift blending into Travis Kelce’s family wedding, Meghan Markle twerking (?), and a manifestation debate no one asked for. Plus, the woo-woo polyamory breakdown that needs to be studied.



    (00:00) 👩🏼‍⚖️ Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni - Court bombshells, conspiracy theories, and one very shady filing.

    (12:59) 💍 Taylor Swift at Travis Kelce’s Family Wedding - We’re talking dresses, dancing, and… was that a Swiftie infiltration?

    (19:46) 👑 Meghan Markle’s Hospital Dance Video - Is it cute or is it cringe? Discuss.

    (26:13) 🌻 Hailey Bieber’s Therapeutic Summer - Instagram captions don’t lie. We decode.

    (31:59) 🍼 Lauren Bostick Manifested Motherhood - What she said about fertility broke the internet. Let’s unpack.

    (42:28) 🔥 Expanded Monogamy, Burning Man, and The Goddess Pipeline - Truly one of the craziest things we’ve ever covered. Brandy Melville models involved.



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  • 278: Blake Lively Backpedals & Kylie Spills her CC's 🍒
    Jun 4 2025

    Chanler’s back from the flight from hell—complete with zero legroom, tarmac heat, and a bralette breakdown. Lauren lands from St. Barth and immediately roasts the snack box struggle. The sisters debrief their Juicy Scoop appearance, dish on Brooklyn upgrades, and dive into the latest Karen Read courtroom twists. Then it’s The Valley's most overblown scandal (a pantry tequila swig??), Blake Lively’s legal backpedaling, Taylor Swift’s mini dress moment, and why Ubah’s fiancé might be the hottest man in Bravo history.


    Timestamps:

    [00:00] ✈️ Flight from Hell — Chanler barely survives United's final row with no AC, no food, and full claustrophobia. She strips. Literally.

    [10:00] 🎤 Juicy Scoop & Jet Lag — Post-interview blackout and a proud sister moment over their Heather McDonald appearance.

    [11:30] 🏡 Brooklyn Era Incoming — Chanler shares details on her dreamy new apartment: double square footage and heated bathroom floors.

    [15:00] ⚖️ Karen Read Trial Gets Messier — FBI investigations, hostile witnesses, and a town with collective amnesia. It’s getting wild.

    [20:00] 🍾 Pantrygate on The Valley — Did a secret tequila swig mean more? Janet stirs the pot hard and the girls call BS on the drinking drama.

    [25:00] 💔 Jesse & Michelle Meltdown — Jesse’s verbal abuse, Michelle’s glow-up, and why divorce might’ve saved her personality.

    [28:00] 🧾 Blake Lively's Legal Retreat — She’s trying to drop the emotional distress claim—but keep her options open? We see you, Blake.

    [33:00] 🎭 Sutton Foster Steps Out (Silently) — Hugh Jackman’s girlfriend skips the press line while Deborra-Lee Furness drops spiritual shade.

    [36:00] 👠 Taylor Swift at Monkey Bar — Black mini dress, diamond tennis bracelet, and... platform heels? The girls weigh in on the look.

    [40:00] 👙 Bethenny’s Bikini Clapback — Bethenny hits the swimwear runway and defends her “cute tush.” The sisters are divided.

    [45:00] 🩻 Kylie’s Boob Job Details — 450cc, moderate profile, under the muscle. Kylie finally shares her plastic surgery specs.

    [50:00] 💍 Ubah Gets Her Man — Ubah Hassan’s new fiancé is hot, tall, and rich. Chanler is unwell. Jill Zarin thinks it’s divine intervention.

    [55:00] 💔 Lauren Sanchez Grace Clause — Why does Sutton get heat but Lauren Sanchez gets worshipped? The girls make their case.

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  • 277: Did Meghan Markle Really Ask for Every Vogue Cover? + Momtok Meltdowns on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
    May 28 2025

    This week, Lauren and Chanler are coming to you from full LA trip prep mode. From Beyoncé's celestial performance to Mormon Wives chaos, they're breaking down the biggest stories. Expect mystery, mom drama, reality TV breakdowns, and one very bold Vogue request.

    • [00:00] 🎬 Packing, filming, and a camera setup saga—plus, why Chanler is unusually zen pre-LA

    • [07:46] 🎤 Beyoncé’s LA concert: iconic cameos, wardrobe wins, and a soft launch for Jay-Z's redemption arc?

    • [13:46] ⚖️ Karen Read trial deep dive: conspiracies, Facebook moms, and a possible swingers' night with a garage door guy

    • [24:11] 🥃 Sandy Cohen, The OC, and an unforgettable party moment involving a very lost wristwatch

    • [26:51] 📺 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: friendship fallouts, glam mom interventions, and shifting alliances on-screen

    • [39:21] ✂️ Book deals, hair-related shade, and the moment the group chat energy shifted on camera

    • [41:41] 🍼 Emotions run high with a pregnancy reveal and a redemption arc that hits surprisingly hard

    • [47:11] 💍 Engagement rumors swirl as an NFL legend updates his yacht name and sparks internet theories

    • [50:11] 👑 Meghan Markle’s alleged pitch to be on every Vogue cover—and what reportedly happened next

    • [53:41] 🧾 Brittany Bateman’s legal drama heats up—featuring lawsuits, former friends, and court filings

    • [56:51] 💸 Dakota Johnson talks rent struggles, career rejections, and what “making it” actually looked like


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  • 276: Blake Betrays Taylor, Cassie Testifies Against Diddy, and the Mormon Wives are Back
    May 21 2025

    Fresh off their Ballerina Farm pilgrimage, the girls are back—and chaos reigns. Lauren and Chanler unpack the alleged threat Blake Lively’s legal team made against Taylor Swift (yes, the one about exposing 10 years of private texts 😳). Then it’s a deep dive into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: ketamine therapy, family betrayal, facelifts, and MomTok delusions. Plus, major developments in the Karen Read trial and Cassie Ventura’s devastating testimony in the Diddy case. You’re not ready. 👀


    ⏱️ Chapter Timestamps:

    [00:00] 💃 Ballerina Farm Recap: Camas, cows & Courtney Grow

    [01:30] 💔 Taylor & Blake’s Alleged Friendship Fallout—The Godmother Threat

    [07:15] 😢 “I Was the Night Girl”: Why This Broke Chanler’s Brain

    [13:00] 👀 Travis Kelsey, Ryan Reynolds & More Receipts

    [16:00] 🐍 Reputation (Taylor’s Version) Theories + AMAs Hints

    [17:45] 🎥 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: Season 2 Breakdown

    [24:00] 🍼 Taylor’s Family BBQ Meltdown: Gaslighting on Camera

    [31:00] 💔 Dakota’s Manipulation & The Problem With Provo Dating

    [36:00] 💊 Ketamine Couples Therapy & “MomTok Doesn’t Pay the Bills”?

    [40:00] 🙄 Zach Wants 2007 Jen Back + The Provo Male Epidemic

    [44:00] 🧠 PSA: Why You Should Leave Provo (Like…now)

    [45:30] ⚖️ Karen Read Trial Update: Discredited Experts & Shady Evidence

    [52:00] 🧃 Evidence in Stop & Shop Bags & “Bits vs Bytes” Explained

    [54:00] 🚨 Sgt. Yuri Bucha’s Shady Testimony

    [55:30] 💣 Diddy Trial: Cassie’s Heartbreaking Stand & The 4-Day Freak Off

    [58:00] 😳 “His Eyes Went Black”: Cassie’s Words, Diddy’s Alleged Abuse

    [01:01:00] ✊ Why Cassie’s Testimony Changes Everything

    [01:02:00] 👑 Prince Andrew Mentioned = Time to Wrap


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  • 275: Divorce Drama, Family Secrets, and Dad’s Wildest Attorney Tales 🥂
    May 14 2025

    Lauren and Chanler’s dad, a family law attorney, returns to share legal wisdom on divorce, prenups, and child support, plus wild stories like chasing stolen goods. They reflect on their LDS upbringing, raising five daughters, and pursuing dreams at any age.


    ⏱️ Timestamps


    [00:00–02:00] 🎙️ Dad’s Return

    Listener love brings Dad back.

    [02:00–04:00] 💕 Deb’s Friendship

    Dad cherishes his 42-year marriage.

    [04:00–09:00] 👧 Raising Daughters

    Mom’s strictness, faith, and reading shaped success.

    [09:00–10:00] ⚖️ Baby Names

    Courts don’t block odd names.

    [10:00–13:00] 💸 Income Lies

    Fight ex’s fraud; ditch shady lawyers.

    [13:00–17:00] 🕵️‍♂️ Attorney Choice

    Pick specialists, trust gut, watch judges.

    [17:00–19:00] 💳 Blocked Accounts

    Lawyer up for support orders.

    [19:00–21:00] 💼 Post-Divorce Work

    Both spouses must work; skills matter.

    [21:00–23:00] 😈 Bad Behavior

    Affairs rarely affect no-fault divorce.

    [23:00–27:00] 👨‍👧 Five Girls

    Dad navigated hormones; Mom was strict.

    [27:00–30:00] 💔 Divorce Tips

    Seek faith, a friend; try saving marriage.

    [30:00–33:00] 📈 Impulsive Divorces

    More common, but kids suffer.

    [33:00–38:00] ⚖️ Law Path

    Started law at 30 with three kids.

    [38:00–41:00] 🚀 Chase Dreams

    Pursue goals at any age.

    [41:00–44:00] 📝 Prenups

    Fair prenups share future earnings.

    [44:00–48:00] 🧗‍♀️ College Days

    Lauren’s risky dates; sisters’ server jobs.

    [48:00–50:00] 🦅 Daughters’ Paths

    All chose bold careers, not law.

    [50:00–52:00] 💡 New Careers

    Nursing, paralegal, sales for reentry.

    [52:00–57:00] 🚨 Wild Tales

    Limo attorney; stolen goods chase.

    [57:00–59:00] 💰 Greed’s Cost

    Hidden assets don’t pay off.

    [59:00–01:01:00] 🌟 No Status

    Raised valuing love, not pedigree.

    [01:01:00–End] 🎤 Sign-Off

    Dad’s 25 followers get love.


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  • 274: Is Taylor Swift Team Justin?
    May 14 2025
    The girls are back from wedding bliss and diving headfirst into hot topics—from a possible Taylor Swift pregnancy to Diddy’s disturbing trial details. Chanler dishes on an unexpected urgent care visit, while Lauren unpacks blind items about Blake Lively’s rumored fallout with Taylor. They debate the Karen Read trial, analyze Meghan and Harry’s Beyoncé date night, and break down why a 24-year-old pageant queen is outsmarting all of us with $9 million in real estate. Drama, speculation, and Chanel denim slander—this episode has it all.[00:00–03:00] 💊 Post-Wedding Urgent CareChanler reveals her rough post-honeymoon health scare and how “traveler’s issues” sent her to urgent care.[03:00–05:00] 🌽 Mother’s Day & Corn Cob ShameThe girls reflect on a sweet Mother’s Day… until a corn-eating incident leaves Lauren humiliated.[06:00–08:00] ⚖️ Should They Cover the Diddy Trial?They discuss whether they should pivot into full-on legal podcasters and break down audience appetite for darkness.[08:00–10:00] ☕ Taylor & Travis Reappear!Taylor and Travis were spotted with both moms on Mother's Day, sparking pregnancy or engagement rumors.[10:00–12:00] 👜 The Chanel 25 Bag DebateLauren critiques Taylor’s controversial denim Chanel bag and the brand’s identity crisis.[12:00–15:00] 🤰 Engagement or Baby on the Way?Speculation: is Taylor secretly pregnant—or just shopping hobo bags with bad posture?[15:00–18:00] 💍 DeuxMoi’s Blind Hint + Pregnancy Test PanicA DeuxMoi tease hints at an engagement, while Chanler has her own pregnancy test scare.[19:00–21:00] 🧐 Karen Read Trial Talk BeginsThe girls passionately defend Karen and wonder why the supposed “cover-up crew” seems so bad at covering up.[21:00–27:00] 🧪 Karen Theories & Cocktail Glass DebateIn-depth theorizing: how did the glass stay intact? Why did no one text about the body? They’re confused and obsessed.[29:00–32:00] 📣 Taylor Subpoenaed in Blake LawsuitTaylor’s fiery denial of involvement in “It Ends With Us” is dissected line by line.[32:00–35:00] 🚫 Girl Gang Fallout: Blake is OUTWith Blake uninvited from Gigi’s party and Travis unfollowing Ryan, it looks like Taylor is officially over it.[35:00–38:00] 🔥 Blind Item: Blake Tried to Seduce Justin?!A wild blind claims Blake made a move on Justin… and Taylor may have spilled it to Brittany Mahomes.[39:00–42:00] 🧨 Diddy Trial Breakdown (Warning: Graphic)Shocking opening day testimony is covered, from assault to bribes to male escorts and control.[43:00–45:00] 👑 Jordan Hudson’s Real Estate EmpireBill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend just bought $9M in condos. The girls are stunned and impressed.[45:00–48:00] 🧠 The Psychology of Jordan HudsonIs this 5D chess? They analyze the strategy and ROI behind her sugar baby-to-landlord pipeline.[49:00–52:00] 🤠 Meghan & Harry at Cowboy CarterThey break down Meghan’s outfit, Harry’s hat, and why this photo dump hits different.[52:00–55:00] 👑 The Royal Family’s PR GamesWith no signs of reconciliation, the girls predict Harry and Meghan’s fading relevance as the next gen grows up.[55:00–57:00] 💸 Brand Longevity Doubts for Meghan & HarryDo they have enough “product” to support the lifestyle? Lauren goes full monologue.[57:00–End] 🎤 Signing Off with LoveBack from the wedding and ready to spill all the tea, the girls close with love for the listeners and a reminder to subscribe for more!Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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