This week we are deep diving into the lives of Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK, Jr. and their iconic American romance. Who exactly was Carolyn before she waltzed into JFK Jr.'s glittering orbit? What exactly made the American prince forego his supermodel habit in favor of a normal girl from White Plains, New York? How did Jackie O. feel about her son as he rose to prominence as the American sex symbol of his time? Why was Carolyn two hours late to her own wedding? And what happened on the fateful night when they met their untimely demise? We answer these questions and much, much more. Buckle in, bb's!

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds to chat about the top celebrity moments of 2024, jaw-dropping blind items, and celebrity predictions for 2025. They discuss the problematic cast of That 70’s Show (5:06), as well as a must-read celebrity memoir. They dive into the year’s top celebrity breakups (12:22). Kelli reveals an interesting theory on Taylor Swift’s connection to the Kansas City Chiefs (19:01). They pull back the curtain on how PR plays out in celebrity relationships, including their tinfoil hat theory on Taylor Swift’s relationships (23:13). They shine a light on celebrity pap walks (34:17). They break down which celebrities are struggling to adapt to the ever-changing definition of celebrity (37:15). Finally, they give their take on the VPR re-boot and the current season of RHONY (49:21). Listeners can find Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds anywhere you listen to podcasts or at Patreon.com/BeyondTheBlinds

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Lauren and Chan share updates and happenings that are both very New York in nature. The gals share their sadness over the end of the Eras Tour and what they think is coming next for Taylor. (10:37) They dive into the story that has gripped the nation, the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson and the arrest of Luigi Mangione, including the lesser-known manifesto that gives additional insight to his alleged motive. (15:52) Finally, they discuss recent news of Jay-Z being named in the Diddy lawsuit, Jay-Z’s response, and thoughts on associating with the morally bankrupt. (40:49)

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