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we are NOT the SAME

we are NOT the SAME

By: Heather Gardner and Lacey Joseph
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We Are Not the Same: Join our comedic journey as Bodybuilder Barbie flexes her muscles against Daria’s dry wit! Dive into the hilarity of life’s twists and turns through the eyes of two contrasting besties who prove that different perspectives lead to the best stories. Tune in for laughs, randomness, and a sprinkle of chaos!





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  • Healing Through Dissociation: Our Journey with Therapeutic Ketamine
    Jun 9 2025

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    Have you ever wanted to peek behind the curtain of an emerging mental health treatment that's changing lives? Step into our world as we share our raw, unfiltered experiences with ketamine therapy—recorded just hours after Heather's infusion session.

    Ketamine therapy isn't just another wellness trend. This FDA-approved treatment is revolutionizing mental health care by helping people process trauma, reduce anxiety, and break free from treatment-resistant depression. We take you through our parallel journeys—Heather as she completes booster treatments and Lacey during her initial six-session protocol—offering candid insights you won't find in clinical descriptions.

    From the bizarre sensation of "dissolving" to feeling like you're living inside Fantasia, we describe what dissociation actually feels like and why it's therapeutic rather than frightening. We share practical advice about setting intentions, choosing the right music (hint: skip the lyrics), and what to expect physically as your body processes the medicine. The conversation reveals surprising benefits neither of us expected, including dramatic reductions in physical inflammation and muscle tension that linger long after treatment ends.

    Whether you're considering ketamine therapy for yourself, supporting someone who is, or simply curious about cutting-edge mental health treatments, this episode offers valuable perspective from two different people at different stages of the ketamine journey. Listen as we flip-flop between patient and caretaker roles, proving that healing doesn't have to be a solo journey. Ready to explore what happens when we allow our minds to access parts of ourselves we've kept hidden? Join us for this intimate look at what happens when we let go and allow healing to happen.

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    44 mins
  • What happens when two friends barely see each other for months?
    Jun 5 2025

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    We've returned for Season 3 after months apart, with both of us navigating wildly different paths from bodybuilding competitions to wedding preparations. Our separate journeys finally converge as we catch up on everything we've missed.

    • Multiple trips to Florida for cheer competitions where both kids performed well and hit "zero deduction" routines
    • Intense bodybuilding prep including doing cardio while watching the kids playing in the pool
    • Day-of show nutrition strategies involving bags of rice, rice cakes, pancakes and almond butter
    • Palm Springs bachelorette weekend coinciding with Stagecoach festival, requiring creative transportation solutions
    • Being "kicked out" by another rheumatologist despite ongoing health issues and suspected Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome
    • Both participating in ketamine therapy for mental health (more details in next week's episode)
    • Adjusting to major life changes including quitting jobs and children becoming high school seniors
    • Summer plans including hiking and spending more time together

    Stay tuned for next week's episode where we'll discuss our experiences with ketamine therapy!


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    48 mins
  • We Should Be Recording This
    May 5 2025

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    Two best friends hosts Heather and Lacey accidentally create podcast magic when they hit record during their pre-show garden chat. What unfolds is a genuine glimpse into female friendship at its most authentic—unfiltered, unpredictable, and utterly relatable.

    The conversation meanders through linguistic quirks (like unconsciously adopting accents from people around you) before diving into contrasting approaches to fitness and body image. Heather details her disciplined preparation for an upcoming bodybuilding competition, while Lacey humorously laments how her body "keeps the sweets and gets rid of anything of actual value" due to IBS—a refreshing counterpoint to perfectionistic health narratives.

    We witness a celebration of professional growth as host Heather describes how removing "dead weight" from her life allowed her various careers to flourish simultaneously. From personal training to podcasting, spray tanning, and fitness instruction, her renaissance approach to career-building reflects the modern reality of the gig economy where professionals combine multiple passions.

    Perhaps most entertaining is the unexpected discovery of "Caged Ladies," a dating website for prisoners that sparks an illuminating discussion about accountability, manipulation, and the psychology behind seeking relationships with incarcerated individuals. What begins as casual banter transforms into surprisingly insightful social commentary.

    Throughout it all, authentic friendship shines brightest. The unscripted nature creates moments of surprising vulnerability, like when one host confesses, "I only yap with you"—a simple statement that perfectly encapsulates the special trust in close friendships. Enjoy this raw, unfiltered slice of friendship that reminds us all why our most treasured relationships are those where we can simply be ourselves.

    Subscribe now and join us and listen back to our episode on "Secret Love Children"—it's a wild ride!

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    35 mins
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