In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with the nephews of the infamous outlaw John Dillinger, Mike and Travis Thompson. Together, they discuss Dillinger's mysterious legacy, the FBI's involvement, and the family's ongoing quest to uncover the truth about his alleged death. They discuss theories of a possible cover-up, forensic evidence, and a buried map that could hold secrets to Dillinger's alleged death.

Mike Thompson the Nephew of John Dillinger, is actively involved in investigating the true story behind Dillinger's death.

Travis Thompson is the Great-nephew of John Dillinger and a law enforcement officer with experience at federal, state, and local levels.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum

• (0:30) Sheryl introduces guests, Mike and Travis Thompson to the listeners

• (3:30) Investigating Dillinger's capture

• (6:00) Roadblocks and FBI interference

• (10:00) The Little Bohemia Lodge

• (15:00) Autopsy inconsistencies

• (18:00) Canine search and the buried map

• (21:00) The mason jar discovery

• (27:00) The map's significance - decoding the past

• (36:00) The search continues

• (37:00) Significance of an Indiana shell map from 1934

• (40:00)  ”Three rules I learned from Walter Dietrich. One, never work with people who are desperate. Two, never work with people who aren't the best. Three, never work when you're not ready.” - John Dillinger

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips

• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

• Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

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In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with Forensic Pathologist, Dr. Priya Banerjee. Sheryl and Dr. Banerjee dive into the fascinating world of forensic pathology, breaking down the difference between cause and manner of death, spotting different types of wounds, and figuring out whether a death was a homicide, suicide, accident, or natural cause. Dr. Banerjee opens up about her journey, some unforgettable cases she's worked on, and how teamwork is instrumental in cracking tough cases.

Dr. Priya Banerjee is a forensic pathologist with over 3000 autopsies and significant experience in high-profile cases, including the wrongful death of Breonna Taylor. Educated at the University of Pennsylvania and Johns Hopkins, she is an adjunct professor at Boston University School of Medicine.

Listeners can learn more about Dr. Priya Banerjee on X @Autopsy_MD

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum

• (00:30) Sheryl introduces Dr. Priya Banerjee to Zone 7

• (03:00) The impact of cold cases

• (05:30) Dr. Banerjee's impressive credentials

• (06:30) Path to Becoming a Forensic Pathologist

• (12:00) The role of a Medical Examiner

• (16:30) Explaining cause vs. manner of death

• (20:00) Challenges of undetermined cases

• (24:00) Memorable and impactful cases

• (30:00) The value of relationships in Forensics

• (33:00)  ”We have 62 counties in New York state and each has its own system of death investigation.” -M.B

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips

• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

• Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

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On April 9, 1987, 22-year-old Marilyn Joi Base was abducted while doing laundry at the Pepper Ridge Apartments in East Tulsa.

Anyone with information is asked to contact the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation at 800-522-8017 or email tips@osbi.ok.gov.

Guest Bio and Links:

Charlotte Autry is Marilyn Joi Base's childhood best friend. Charlotte grew up with Joi in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. She has become an advocate for seeking justice in Joi’s case, balancing this mission with her family life, which includes six grandchildren.

Resources:

‘Justice for Joi’ Facebook page

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Charlotte Autry, the childhood best friend of Marilyn Joi Base, who was murdered 37 years ago. Charlotte reflects on their shared childhood in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, and the impact of Joy’s tragic murder. They explore the details surrounding Joy’s disappearance and death, focusing on the timeline, potential suspects, and the significance of revisiting cold cases. The conversation also touches on the ongoing investigation and possible suspects. Sheryl and Charlotte stress the need for more people to come forward with information and remember Joi's life.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum

• (0:10) Sheryl gives a brief background of Marilyn’s case

• (0:30) Sheryl introduces guest, Charlotte Autry

• (2:30) Childhood memories and growing up in Broken Arrow

• (5:30) The day Joi disappeared

• (8:00) Examining potential suspects and motives

• (12:00) Sheryl highlights the desolation of Bragg Mountain

• (18:00) OSBI’s creative investigation techniques

• (21:00) Advocating for a fresh look at Joy’s DNA evidence

• (22:00) Revisiting Evidence and Advocating for Justice

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips

• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

• Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

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Today, Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum discuss the recent federal charges against Luigi Mangione, including the potential for the death penalty. They explain Judge Luther Alverson's judicial practices, the low jail count expectations, and Nancy's career journey. Nancy and Sheryl shift the conversation to societal reactions to crime, referencing comparisons to Eric Rudolph and Robin Hood and the effects of media representation. Lastly, they discuss holiday plans and traditions.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup

• (0:10) Sheryl starts CRU with Luigi Mangione's federal charge

• (0:45) Nancy explains Judge Luther Alverson's judicial practices and his jail counts

• (4:00) Nancy Grace's career journey

• (10:00) Mangione's case and public perception

• (12:00) Details from Mangione’s spiral notebook

• (17:00) Questioning the back problem - suspicious activities

• (22:00) Eric Rudolph and mental health debates

• (26:30) “You can’t compare him to Robin Hood without admitting he’s the killer.”

• (29:00) Sheryl and Nancy finish CRU with holiday traditions

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases.

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy:

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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On February 13, 2017, teenage friends Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a walk near Delphi, Indiana, but never returned home. The next day, their bodies were found in a clearing, victims of a brutal murder. Liberty recorded a blurry video of the man approaching them in her final moments, capturing his gruff command: “Down the hill.” The haunting clues sparked public obsession and rampant speculation online, while investigators explored every lead. Despite years of effort, the case remained unsolved, leaving a community searching for answers.

Guest Bio and Links:

Susan Hendricks is a renowned journalist from HLN, podcaster, and author. Áine Cain is a journalist and co-host of Murder Sheet. Kevin Greenlee is an attorney and co-host of Murder Sheet.

Resources:

Murder Sheet Podcast

Shadow of the Bridge: The Delphi Murders and the Dark Side of the American Heartland By Áine Cain and Kevin Greenlee

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by journalists Susan Hendricks, Áine Cain, and attorney Kevin Greenlee as they share their powerful experiences from the Delphi trial. They primarily highlight moments of camaraderie, the emotional toll of witnessing evidence, and the struggles of maintaining accuracy amidst misinformation. Áine and Kevin discuss their dynamic approach to covering the trial, while Susan shares personal anecdotes that emphasize the human connection forged through this shared experience. They also reflect on the remarkable grace of the victims’ families and the resilience required to endure the trial's grueling schedule and rules.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum

• (0:15) Sheryl introduces guests, Áine Cain, Kevin Greenlee, and returning guest, Susan Hendricks to the listeners

• (1:00) Reminiscing the experience of the true crime community

• (2:30) Courtroom experiences and observations

• (3:45) Behind the scenes with journalists

• (6:00) Áine and Kevin share their teamwork strategy

• (14:00) Susan recounts humorous moments waiting outside

• (15:00) Áine describes journaling under pressure

• (23:00) Condemning sensationalism and misinformation

• (28:00) The failures in the defense strategies

• (30:00) Legal stunts used in court

• (31:30) Jury questions impress Sheryl with their sophistication

• (35:00) Áine and Kevin reflect on their favorite parts of Delphi

• (41:00) Áine speaks about the emotional toll of the crime scene evidence

• (44:00) Journalistic challenges and accuracy

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips

• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

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Today Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum discuss the latest on the Luigi Mangione case. They explain the legal nuances of the charges against him, the premeditation and intent behind his actions, and the implications of his crimes on victims and society. Nancy and Sheryl also examine broader issues, such as the public's controversial support of Mangione, the legal distinctions between murder charges, and the growing concern over ghost guns.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup

• (0:10) Sheryl introduces the updates on the Luigi Mangione case

• (1:00) Public reaction and outrage

• (3:00) Legal breakdown of murder 1 vs. murder 2

• (8:00) Human trafficking and poaching routes

• (9:30) Evidence and investigation details

• (14:00) Connection to past infamous cases

• (17:00) Family impact and emotional toll

• (23:30) Ghost guns and legal implications

• (30:00) Personal reflections and closing thoughts

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases.

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy:

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In March 8th, 1990, an unidentified homicide victim was discovered at West Point Lake, Georgia, and remains unidentified to this day.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Clay Brant about an unidentified homicide victim discovered at West Point Lake in 1990. They discuss the victim's distinctive tattoos, a unique belt buckle, a commemorative ring from the Missouri Pacific Railroad, and other personal effects. Sheryl and Clay also discuss trackng the victim’s identity through DNA testing, media outreach, and historical labor records. Last but not least, they encourage listeners to take part in the effort to help, highlighting the critical role of media and community involvement in solving cold cases.

Guest Bio and Links:

Clay Bryant is a retired chief of police, author, and cold case expert with decades of experience in law enforcement. Known for his meticulous attention to detail, Clay has solved numerous high-profile cases, bringing closure to families and communities.

Clay is the author of three books:

The Cold Case Murder of Fred Wilkerson: Untangling the Black Widow's Web in West Georgia

Solving the West Georgia Murder of Gwendolyn Moore: A Cry From the Well

Solving the Murder of Vieng Phovixay: Evil Dwells in West Georgia (True Crime)

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum

• (0:10) Sheryl introduces the 1990 case

• (0:30) Sheryl welcomes returning guest, Clay Brant to the listeners

• (2:00) Distinctive tattoos and their significance

• (5:00) Investigative leads and challenges

• (8:30) Potential connections and theories

• (11:45) Efforts to identify the victim

• (14:30) Call for Zone 7 listeners

• (23:05) “For me, jewelry is a way of keeping memories alive.” -LC

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips

• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

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Today on CRU, Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum dive deep into the shocking murder of Brian Thompson, CEO of UnitedHealthcare, who was killed while attending a conference in New York City. They discuss the latest details of the case, including the unique choice of weapon—a whale rod with a silencer, the killer's odd behavior, and the engraved shell casings with the words 'deny,' 'defend,' and 'depose.' Nancy and Sheryl also discuss potential motives tied to the insurance industry and the suspect's methodical, yet flawed, execution of the crime.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup

• (0:10) Brief background of the murder of United Healthcare CEO

• (0:30) Unique weapon used

• (4:30) Analyzing the killer's behavior

• (8:00) Comparison to Eric Rudolph’s methods

• (11:30) The killer's trail and mistakes

• (15:00) Public reaction to the murder

• (19:30) The evidence of the crime

• (23:00) Flaws within the healthcare system

• (29:00) Reflections on family and personal life

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases.

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy:

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.