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Journey to an ESOP & Beyond

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond

By: Phillip Hayes and Jason Miller
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ESOPs are gaining traction. In the "Journey to an ESOP & Beyond” podcast, Phillip Hayes and Jason Miller explain the process of the ESOP transaction and address ESOPs from a business owner's perspective. They illuminate the simplicity of ESOPs and debunk common misconceptions that ESOPs are immensely costly and complicated.

© 2025 Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
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Episodes
  • EP14 - Behind Enemy Lines - Dealing with the Buy-Side on an ESOP Transaction
    Jun 16 2025

    On this episode, we dig into a better understanding of the buy side team for an ESOP transaction. This would include the Trustee, Evaluation Firm, and their legal counsel. As you invite them into the ESOP deal, they are in a sense the enemy and there are certain aspects of working with them in this process that are important to understand so that you can be better prepared for your transaction and your journey to an ESOP.

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    41 mins
  • EP13 - Third Party Administration for ESOPs - with Tom Roback at Blue Ridge
    Jun 2 2025

    As the podcast discussed at the beginning of the new season- we wanted to give a strong overview of the Third-Party Administrators (TPAs) role in the ESOP. On this episode, the podcast interviews Tom Roback with Blue Ridge. The episode looks at the trends in the ESOP community and the consolidation of TPA companies. We look to answer what challenges with TPA firms are currently being experienced and how TPAs (particularly Blue Ridge) are looking to overcome those to provide a strong partnership with their clients. Tom does an excellent job walking through a a various list of topics - this should be a helpful podcast episode along your journey to an ESOP.

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    43 mins
  • EP12 - Power Rangers - Roll Up Strategy for ESOPs
    May 19 2025

    Power Rangers are an excellent example of strength in combining multiple superheroes on one team. On this episode we consider: What is your company worth? What happens when we combine it with another then another? The value could significantly change for better multiples and for multiple reasons. One of those would be a larger combined EBITDA with a reduction in redundant expenses. Another could be the risk profile is reduced given larger geographic and higher diversification of revenue. Whether you sell to an ESOP or another buyer, through this podcast episode we discuss the multiple reasons to consider this approach.

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    37 mins
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