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The Education Gadfly Show

The Education Gadfly Show

By: Thomas B. Fordham Institute
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For more than 15 years, the Fordham Institute has been hosting a weekly podcast, The Education Gadfly Show. Each week, you’ll get lively, entertaining discussions of recent education news, usually featuring Fordham’s Mike Petrilli and David Griffith. Then the wise Amber Northern will recap a recent research study. For questions or comments on the podcast, contact its producer, Stephanie Distler, at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.

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  • #975: Mike on the mic: On “discrimination” and demagoguery
    Jun 25 2025

    On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Mike flies solo to reflect on what’s happening across the education reform landscape—from the private school choice debate to the question of whether education reform has successfully scaled.

    Then, on the Research Minute, Adam shares a study examining four-day school weeks and their (paltry) impact on teacher recruitment and retention.

    Recommended content:

    • “Maine Case Opens New Battleground for School Choice: The Right to Discriminate” —Linda Jacobson, The 74
    • “What Betsy DeVos should say about vouchers, LGBT rights, and religious liberty” —Mike Petrilli, Thomas B. Fordham Institute
    • “John Arnold’s Instructive Retreat from Ed Reform” —Mike Goldstein, Education Next
    • “Fewer Children Left Behind: Lessons From the Dramatic Achievement Gains of the 1990s and 2000s” —Mike Petrilli, Thomas B. Fordham Institute
    • “The Effects of the Four-Day School Week on Teacher Recruitment and Retention” Andrew M. Camp, J. Cameron Anglum, Cory Koedel, Se Woong Lee, and Tuan D. Nguyen, CALDER (2025)

    Feedback Welcome: Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to Stephanie Distler at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.

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    35 mins
  • #974: The Risks of the Educational Choice for Children Act, with Jon Valant
    Jun 18 2025

    On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Jon Valant —director of the Brown Center on Education Policy and a senior fellow in Governance Studies at Brookings—joins Mike to discuss his recent analysis of the federal tax credit scholarship initiative included in the Republican budget bill and its potential to open the door to waste, fraud, and discriminatory practices. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam shares a Belgian study comparing the cognitive and non-cognitive effects of work-based learning within different vocational education arrangements.

    Recommended content:

    • “The Educational Choice for Children Act opens the door to waste, fraud, and abuse” —Jon Valant, Brookings Institution
    • “Federal school choice skeptics are tilting at windmills” —Shaka Mitchell, for Thomas B. Fordham Institute
    • “The impact of work-based versus school-based learning on cognitive and non-cognitive outcomes in vocational secondary education” Ilse Tobback, Dieter Verhaest, and Kristof De Witte, Economics of Education Review (2025)

    Feedback Welcome: Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to Stephanie Distler at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.

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    31 mins
  • #973: Debunking the teacher experience myth, with Linda Darling-Hammond and Anne Podolsky
    Jun 11 2025

    On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Linda Darling-Hammond and Anne Podolsky of the Learning Policy Institute—authors of our latest Think Again brief, “Do the Returns to Teacher Experience Fizzle Out?”—join Mike and David to discuss whether teachers really stop improving after just a few years on the job. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam shares a study examining the extent of school board turnover and whether it is linked to school performance.

    Recommended content:

    • “Think Again: Do the returns to teacher experience fizzle out?” —Anne Poldolsky and Linda Darling-Hammond, Learning Policy Institute, for Thomas B. Fordham Institute
    • “Effective Teacher Professional Development” — Linda Darling-Hammond, Maria E. Hyler, and Madelyn Gardner, Learning Policy Institute
    • “The voices we don't hear: Teachers who gave up” —Robert Pondiscio, Thomas B. Fordham Institute
    • “High Turnover with Low Accountability: Local School Board Elections in 16 States” Vladimir Kogan, Stéphane Lavertu, and Zachary Peskowitz, EdWorking Paper (May 2025)

    Feedback Welcome: Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to Stephanie Distler at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.

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    27 mins
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