Episodes

  • The Data Episode with Cher Fox
    Dec 17 2024
    In this engaging conversation with Jaye Tillson and John Spiegel, Cher Fox shares her unique journey from a young programmer to a data fitness coach and public speaker. She discusses the importance of data quality, security, and governance, emphasizing that everyone in an organization shares responsibility for data management. Cher also highlights the challenges of implementing AI and the need for organizations to be prepared before adopting new technologies. Additionally, she addresses the future of data science careers and the importance of fostering curiosity about technology in younger generations. Takeaways • Cher Fox began her career at a young age, learning programming on a Commodore 64 • Data fitness coaching parallels personal training, focusing on data quality and purpose • Bad data leads to significant issues in organizations, impacting decision-making • Everyone in an organization shares responsibility for data management • Data governance is a complex but necessary undertaking for businesses • Only a small percentage of organizational data meets quality standards • Many companies are unprepared for the implementation of AI technologies • Hiring practices need to evolve to allow diverse talent into data roles • Youth today are overexposed to technology, impacting their curiosity • Cher emphasizes the importance of fitness and physical activity in her life Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about? It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/
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    54 mins
  • Zero Trust Adoption with Roy Chua
    Dec 9 2024
    In this episode, Jaye Tillson and John Spiegel discuss with Roy Chua the evolving landscape of Zero Trust and SASE across different regions. They explore the challenges organizations face in implementing Zero Trust, the importance of governance, and the need for simplification in security tools. The conversation also highlights the significance of quick wins in Zero Trust implementation, the current state of SASE, and the concept of Universal Zero Trust. The episode concludes with a discussion on vendor diversity and the importance of community engagement in sharing knowledge and experiences. Takeaways • Zero Trust is recognized globally as essential for security • Many organizations struggle with the practical implementation of Zero Trust • Governance often leads to a checkbox mentality rather than genuine adoption • Simplifying security tools can enhance user experience and effectiveness • Identifying quick wins is crucial for gaining momentum in Zero Trust initiatives • Documentation on Zero Trust is often dense and vendor-specific • SASE is still evolving, with a need for simplification and integration • Universal Zero Trust aims to provide consistent security policies across environments • Diversity in security vendors can mitigate risks associated with single vendor reliance • Community engagement is vital for sharing best practices and learning from each other Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about? It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/
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    37 mins
  • Introducing the Zero Trust Forum with Jaye Tillson & John Spiegel
    Dec 9 2024
    In this episode, Jaye and John discuss the rebranding of their podcast to focus on Zero Trust in cybersecurity. They explore the importance of Zero Trust as a strategy, share insights on community engagement, and reflect on personal experiences, including Thanksgiving culinary traditions. The conversation emphasizes the need for resources and support in navigating the Zero Trust journey, inviting listeners to participate and contribute. Takeaways • We rebranded to focus on Zero Trust • Zero Trust is a critical strategy in cybersecurity • Community engagement is essential for sharing knowledge • We will review books and resources related to Zero Trust • Listeners are encouraged to reach out and participate • Thanksgiving traditions can spark culinary conversations • Food plays a significant role in cultural exchanges • We aim to help others avoid roadblocks in their Zero Trust journey • The new website is zerotrustforum.net • We want to hear from our listeners about topics and guests Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about? It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/
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    11 mins
  • Challenges in the M&A Process with Dritan Saliovski
    Dec 9 2024
    In this conversation, Dritan Saliovski discusses the intersection of M&A and cybersecurity with John and Jaye. They explore how companies are now considering cybersecurity during the M&A process, including due diligence, costing, integration, and reputation. They also discuss the potential value that cybersecurity can bring to an acquiring company, as well as the impact of past breaches on the value of a company. The conversation touches on the trend of using AI in M&A and the challenges faced in the M&A process, such as stakeholder management and convincing stakeholders of the importance of cybersecurity. They also discuss the advantages of being an insurance broker in terms of access to real-time incident data and the focus on recovery in addition to protection. The conversation explores the importance of cyber resiliency in the context of mergers and acquisitions (M&A). It highlights the shift from focusing on physical events to cyber events as the more prevalent and likely threat. The discussion touches on the need for companies to have a cyber resiliency program and response plan, especially in the M&A process. The conversation also delves into the role of certifications and maturity models in assessing cyber resiliency, with the conclusion that they are not always reliable indicators. The episode ends with a lighthearted discussion about pizza toppings. Takeaways • Companies are now considering cybersecurity during the M&A process, including due diligence, costing, integration, and reputation. • Cybersecurity can bring potential value to an acquiring company, especially if the target company has better tools, technologies, or consolidation in place. • Past breaches can affect the value of a company, and companies that have been breached may be more willing to sell. • There is a trend of using AI in M&A, with larger companies acquiring smaller AI companies to harness their technology and intellectual property. • Challenges in the M&A process include stakeholder management and convincing stakeholders of the importance of cybersecurity. • Being an insurance broker provides access to real-time incident data, which can inform cybersecurity decisions and help clients mitigate risks. • The focus in cybersecurity is shifting from solely protection to also include recovery, as companies recognize the possibility of being compromised. Cyber resiliency is becoming increasingly important in the M&A process, as cyber events are more prevalent and likely than physical events. • Companies need to have a cyber resiliency program and response plan in place to mitigate the risks associated with cyber threats. • Certifications and maturity models may not always be reliable indicators of cyber resiliency, as the scope and applicability of these certifications can vary. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about? It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/
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    45 mins
  • Navigating the Zero Trust Landscape
    Nov 7 2024
    In this episode, Dr. Chase Cunningham discusses with John and Jaye the evolving landscape of Zero Trust cybersecurity. They explore the global adoption of Zero Trust principles, the importance of maturity models, and the need for accountability at all levels of an organization. The conversation highlights the challenges of user awareness, the future of Zero Trust, and the resources available for education. They also touch on the cultural shift needed within organizations to prioritize cybersecurity as a shared responsibility. Takeaways • Zero Trust is increasingly recognized as a strategic initiative globally. • Progress in cybersecurity should be measured incrementally. • Maturity models are essential for assessing Zero Trust implementation. • Leadership engagement is crucial for effective cybersecurity strategies. • User awareness programs often fail if they complicate workflows. • Cybersecurity should be seen as a fundamental human right. • Organizations must take personal accountability for their cybersecurity choices. • The future of Zero Trust will involve continuous evolution and adaptation. • Sharing experiences and lessons learned in cybersecurity is vital. • Education and resources for Zero Trust need to be more accessible. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about? It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/
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    34 mins
  • The Human Element in Cybersecurity with Nick Mullen
    Aug 29 2024
    In this conversation, Nick Mullen, the founder and CEO of Sanguine Security Solutions, discusses his journey into the cybersecurity field and the importance of the human element in security. He shares an analogy of protecting a pot of gold to explain the concept of zero trust. The conversation also highlights the need for a comprehensive strategy that makes secure choices easy choices and addresses the human attack surface. It emphasizes the importance of relevant and targeted training to combat social engineering attacks. The discussion concludes with the suggestion of implementing technologies like push authentication to enhance security. The conversation covers topics such as the lack of a framework for mapping the human attack surface, the role of governance in cybersecurity, and the challenges of communicating the value of security. Takeaways • The human element plays a significant role in cybersecurity, with a large percentage of breaches involving social engineering. • Zero trust is a strategy that requires a comprehensive approach, making secure choices the easy choices and addressing the human attack surface. • Training should be relevant and targeted to individual roles and responsibilities, rather than a one-size-fits-all approach. • Implementing technologies like push authentication can enhance security and protect against social engineering attacks. There is a lack of a framework for mapping the human attack surface and implementing tools and technologies to protect against it. • Governance plays a crucial role in ensuring that organizations are doing what they are supposed to be doing and doing it well. • Good governance should support an organization's enterprise goals and strategies, whether they are focused on growth and innovation or cost leadership and stability. • The role of security professionals is often misunderstood, and there is a need to communicate the positive impact of security measures to the wider audience. • Personal preferences for pineapple on pizza vary, but it can be seen as a divisive topic. • Ranch dressing is a popular staple in Midwest cuisine. • Ireland is a highly recommended travel destination known for its beautiful landscapes and friendly people. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about? It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/
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    47 mins
  • Live at Black Hat with Jaye Tillson & John Spiegel
    Aug 13 2024
    Jaye Tillson and John Spiegel, sat down for a live conversation at Black Hat 2024. In this special episode, they dive into the highlights of the conference, exploring key trends, emerging technologies, and their potential impact on the industry. From the rise of 'coffee shop networking' and 'Universal ZTNA' to the implications of AI and the ongoing importance of cyber awareness training, Jaye and John cover it all. But that's not all! This episode has a surprise ending, so be sure to tune in. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn At the SSE Forum, we believe you won’t solve all your problems in a single SSE project. SSE is a process. It will take time. It will involve technology, people, culture, and those pesky tech silos. They all need to be addressed. The good thing to know is you are not alone on your journey. Many are making the move to this new network and security model. And with this in mind, Jaye and John formed the SSE Forum. It’s a place where the best minds in the industry come together to help push this technology forward. The forum is driven 100% by the enterprise security and network practitioner and maintains a vendor-neutral perspective. Our goal is to be the rising tide for all boats! What is the Zero Trust Forum about? It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/
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    28 mins
  • Live at Black Hat with Art Ocain
    Aug 9 2024
    We hosted a live conversation with cybersecurity expert Art Ocain at BlackHat 2024. The discussion encompassed a variety of critical topics, including #ransomware prevention and response, and the importance of #cyberawareness training. Jaye, John, and Art then discuss preparation for industry events like BlackHat and Defcon, and key takeaways from this year's conference. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about? It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/
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    36 mins