Episodes

  • Billie Hoard: Contaminated by Goodness -- PART 1
    Jun 22 2025
    Disgust is powerful. If our body believes something we ingest is contaminated, we will throw it up before our mind even knows what happened. But is there a good kind of contamination? Teacher and author Bille Hoard makes the case that disgust can make us reject “euconaminants,” too—the people and qualities that can “infect” us with goodness. Billie Hoard is "a trans woman, teacher, author, and something of an Anabaptist radical.” Billie and her brother, psychology professor Paul Hoard, are co-authors of the forthcoming book “Eucontamination: Disgust Theology and the Christian Life” (Cascade Books), a psychological, theological, and sociological exploration of disgust, purity/contamination, and being transformed by what’s true. Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD
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    42 mins
  • Amanda Pence PART 2 | Radical Love Live S5E18
    Jun 15 2025
    Bible Teacher Amanda Pence wants you to know your hermeneutic—that is, what lens you’re looking through when you read the Bible. There is no perfect “plain reading” of scripture. We all interpret our way through this library, written by many people in various times, places, & situations—& bring much of our own context to the page. Amanda tells us her story of how studying the Bible broke her out of what some call the “Biblical Worldview” & led her to a loving, inclusive, understanding of what Christ & the Holy Spirit are up to. Amanda Pence MA is a Bible scholar who graduated with highest honors from Talbot School of Theology (Biola University). She is committed to studying the Bible in context & with a deep commitment to its inspiration, authority, & inerrancy. She is also an Evangelical LGBTQIA+ advocate who affirms the full inclusion of all siblings of faith, in all levels of the church. Find out more about her academic writings and public speaking at https://www.amandapence.org. Subscribe to her Substack at https://open.substack.com/pub/amandapence.Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD
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    51 mins
  • Amanda Pence: Understand your hermeneutic (yes, you’re using one right now!) Part 1
    Jun 8 2025

    Bible Teacher Amanda Pence wants you to know your hermeneutic—that is, what lens you’re looking through when you read the Bible. There is no perfect “plain reading” of scripture. We all interpret our way through this library, written by many people in various times, places, & situations—& bring much of our own context to the page. Amanda tells us her story of how studying the Bible broke her out of what some call the “Biblical Worldview” & led her to a loving, inclusive, understanding of what Christ & the Holy Spirit are up to.

    Amanda Pence MA is a Bible scholar who graduated with highest honors from Talbot School of Theology (Biola University). She is committed to studying the Bible in context & with a deep commitment to its inspiration, authority, & inerrancy. She is also an Evangelical LGBTQIA+ advocate who affirms the full inclusion of all siblings of faith, in all levels of the church. Find out more about her academic writings and public speaking at https://www.amandapence.org. Subscribe to her Substack at https://open.substack.com/pub/amandapence.

    Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

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    44 mins
  • Bruce Epperly: What Would Jesus (not Trump) Do? Part 2
    May 25 2025

    As Bruce Epperly regularly writes to the Speaker Mike Johnson , "Please consider what Jesus, not Trump, would do." Using this petition as a starting point, we talk with Epperly, who is a theologian, spiritual guide, pastor, professor, and prolific author, about Christianity and US politics today. Listen as he explains how conservative efforts to hold onto traditional theology & the "greatness" of the 1950s goes against the "divinely creative grain of the universe." Liberals are not spared, (nor are Conservatives written off--we are all still "one Church") in this conversation that seeks Christ in the midst of a binary political divide.

    Dr. Bruce Epperly is the author of over 60 books, including his latest, "The God of the Growing Edge: Whitehead and Thurman on Theology, Spirituality, and Social Change" & the recent "Homegrown Mystics: Restoring Our Nation with the Healing Wisdom of America's Visionaries." In addition to teaching, preaching, and writing, Epperly is also a leading thinker in Process Theology and Christian Mysticism (and as you can hear in the podcast, hundreds of other topics.) You can find out more about Bruce Epperly and his work at www.drbruceepperly.com.

    Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • Bruce Epperly: What Would Jesus (not Trump) Do? PART 1
    May 20 2025

    As Bruce Epperly regularly writes to the Speaker Mike Johnson , "Please consider what Jesus, not Trump, would do." Using this petition as a starting point, we talk with Epperly, who is a theologian, spiritual guide, pastor, professor, and prolific author, about Christianity and US politics today. Listen as he explains how conservative efforts to hold onto traditional theology & the "greatness" of the 1950s goes against the "divinely creative grain of the universe." Liberals are not spared, (nor are Conservatives written off--we are all still "one Church") in this conversation that seeks Christ in the midst of a binary political divide.

    Dr. Bruce Epperly is the author of over 60 books, including his latest, "The God of the Growing Edge: Whitehead and Thurman on Theology, Spirituality, and Social Change" & the recent "Homegrown Mystics: Restoring Our Nation with the Healing Wisdom of America's Visionaries." In addition to teaching, preaching, and writing, Epperly is also a leading thinker in Process Theology and Christian Mysticism (and as you can hear in the podcast, hundreds of other topics.) You can find out more about Bruce Epperly and his work at www.drbruceepperly.com.

    Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

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    44 mins
  • Jay Bakker: Fight Better with Each Other (it's the Christian thing to do)
    May 11 2025

    Bakker is back, and he wants you to argue better! "Can't we all get along?" sounds like one of the most naive questions in the world, but in truth, it's one of the most Christlike things we can do. Our guest Jay Bakker, punk-rock pastor, author, and independent scholar, has long been a champion of arguing well, giving others grace, and also calling out intolerance--both on the right and on the left. In this conversation, we dig into what is going on in our country, the deep and wounding polarization, and the lessons we can learn from how figures ranging from Paul to MLK Jr to John Hume to our beloved Tammy Faye (Jay's mom) found a foundation for dialogue in the midst of the conflicts of their times. Jay Bakker is the pastor and founder of Revolution Gathering (https://revolutionchurch.com/), a radically inclusive online community of believers and seekers who want to do church in a way that fits their values, without the partisanship and division. He's on YouTube with his latest message every week--go watch, like, and subscribe at https://www.youtube.com/@revolutionbroadcasting! Jay is also the author of "Son of a Preacher Man", which recounts his experience growing up as the son of famed televangelists Jim and Tammy Bakker, and the more recent books "Fall to Grace: A Revolution of God, Self & Society" and "Faith, Doubt, and Other Lines I've Crossed."

    Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

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    57 mins
  • Dr Mark Karris: Healing Religious Trauma and Rediscovering Yourself
    May 4 2025

    There is a growing awareness of the impact that religious trauma—damaging things we’ve been told, that have been done to us, and that we’ve believed in negative religious environments—can have a lasting affects on our self-esteem, our relationships, and can even get down into our very nervous systems. This is a heartfelt conversation with Dr Mark Karris that focuses on his experiences in helping others heal the trauma of their adverse religious experiences, as well as the story of his own journey to heal his own traumatic experiences in the church. This is an important discussion for anyone who wants to understand religious trauma better, for those who pastor or counsel others who may have religious trauma, or for those who know that something wasn’t right in the religious environment they were brought up in, and need to hear it: you’re not crazy.

    Dr Mark G Karris a licensed Marriage and Family therapist who works with youth, families, couples, and individuals. He brings a range of professional, academic, and travel experiences that give him a breadth of knowledge and empathy. In addition to his role as therapist, Karris is also a prolific author. His latest book is Beyond Fairy Tales: A Couple’s Guide to Finding Clarity, Doing the Work, and Building a Lasting Relationship. He is also the author of Religious Refugees: (De)Constructing Toward Spiritual and Emotional Healing; The Diabolical Trinity:Healing Religious Trauma from a Wrathful God, Tormenting Hell, and a Sinful Self; and Divine Echoes: Reconciling Prayer with the Uncontrolling Love of God. You can find out more about Dr. Karris and his work at https://markgregorykarris.com.

    Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

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    43 mins
  • Starlette Thomas: The Apocalypse of White Body Supremacy
    Apr 28 2025

    On March 10, a demolition crew tore up the pavement of Black Lives Matter Plaza in Washington DC, and Reverend Starlette Thomas was there to bear witness. With this moment of government-ordered erasure as our starting point, we talk with Thomas about the protest and community that happened on that very ground after the killing of George Floyd in 2020—and why recent history has made many African-American protestors avoid the recent “Hands Off” rallies across the country. In this fiery and revelatory conversation, Thomas explains how our “color-coded” society is a facade for a destructive caste system, how those who are “racialized” with the identity of “white body supremacy” need to squelch the voices of others to stay in power, and makes the case for finding our holy “somebodyness” in something other than race.

    Starlette Thomas is an author, activist, visual artist, and race abolitionist. She is also editor and director of the Raceless Gospel Initiative. She regularly preaches and teaches throughout the country and her sermons have been featured by Sojourners and other publications. Starlette is also a contributing author for the book Faith Forward: A Dialogue on Children, Youth & a New Kind of Christianity and author of the the book, “Take Me to the Water”: The Raceless Gospel as Baptismal Pedagogy for a Desegregated Church (Nurturing Faith). She is also the host of the Raceless Gospel podcast, now in its fifth season.

    Find more of her work at racelessgospel.com or on social media at @racelessgospel.

    Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

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    54 mins