Episodes

  • 124: Summer Songs of Resistance Pt 1
    Jun 25 2025

    Chapters

    • Introduction and Technical Setup
    • Localizing Action and Finding Empowerment
    • The Role of Music in Social Commentary
    • Songwriting as a Call to Action
    • Reflections on Lyrics and Social Issues

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    28 mins
  • 124a: Fault and Responsibility: Song Only
    Jun 24 2025

    To listen to the full episode and hear the commentary around this song, listen to episode 124.

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    6 mins
  • 123: Keith Giles: Erasing Mary from the Text
    Jun 18 2025

    takeaways

    • Keith Giles has written multiple books, including a series on quantum gospels.
    • The Gospel of Mary is a fragmentary text with significant insights.
    • Mary Magdalene is likely the central figure in the Gospel of Mary.
    • The text emphasizes the idea of Christ within all individuals.
    • There were multiple early Christian communities with differing beliefs.
    • The Gospel of Mary aligns with the egalitarian views of the Valentinians.
    • The text suggests a direct connection to God without mediators.
    • The concept of the 'child of humanity' is central to the Gospel's message.
    • The Gospel of Mary challenges traditional patriarchal views of God.
    • Understanding the Gospel of Mary could transform modern Christianity. Evangelicalism often defines itself by its enemies.
    • The pendulum of faith can swing too far towards isolation.
    • Community is essential for spiritual growth and understanding.
    • The Gospel of Mary presents radical ideas about sin and forgiveness.
    • The emphasis on sin can be detrimental to spiritual health.
    • Morality should stem from love and connection to others.
    • Political events can challenge our spiritual beliefs.
    • Mary Magdalene's role has been historically marginalized.
    • The Gospel of Mary lacks references from early church writers.
    • The Quantum Gospel of Mary combines multiple texts for deeper insights.

    Links:

    Book: https://tinyurl.com/ck8d2et4

    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/KeithGiles

    Blog: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • 122: Cynthia Beach: Disillusionment with Christian Leaders
    Jun 11 2025
    • Cynthia Beach has a deep connection to Castle Rock, Northern Ireland, which inspires her writing.
    • Her upbringing in a wealthy family contrasted with her mother's devout spirituality.
    • Disillusionment with Christian institutions shaped her understanding of faith.
    • Frederick Douglass's writings provided a framework for navigating faith amidst disillusionment.
    • Operational faith often leads to a focus on exceptionalism rather than true spirituality.
    • The persona adopted by church leaders can create a divide between authenticity and performance.
    • Success in ministry can come with the pressure to conform to certain personas.
    • Disillusionment can be a sign of growth and clarity in one's faith journey.
    • The paradox of being both depraved and glorious is a central theme in understanding faith.
    • Cynthia emphasizes the importance of seeing things clearly in one's spiritual journey. The vocabulary around hiding failures often stems from a desire to protect good work.
    • Exceptionalism often comes at the expense of marginalized groups.
    • Suffering can lead to humility and authenticity in leadership.
    • Listening to others is crucial for crafting community narratives.
    • Hope can be found in personal experiences and divine tenderness.
    • Creativity should be prioritized and not relegated to the bottom of our lists.
    • Idle brain time is beneficial for creativity and problem-solving.
    • The church is facing challenges that may lead to a post-Christian society.
    • Localizing actions can help combat feelings of hopelessness.
    • The desire for exceptionalism can hinder genuine connection and growth.

    Links:

    Web: https://www.cynthiabeach.com/

    Book: https://www.ivpress.com/the-surface-of-water

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • 121: Catherine Cowell: Finding God's Feminine Side
    Jun 4 2025
    • Catherine experienced her faith journey in small, incremental shifts.
    • Questioning beliefs can lead to deeper understanding and growth.
    • Maturity in faith involves embracing uncertainty and mystery.
    • The divine can be understood through both masculine and feminine imagery.
    • Catherine's experiences with church communities shaped her views on faith.
    • The journey of questioning can be seen as an invitation to grow.
    • Feminine imagery for God exists in scripture but is often overlooked.
    • Cultural norms have historically marginalized feminine perspectives in faith.
    • The church's patriarchal structure influences perceptions of God.
    • Reclaiming feminine imagery can enrich spiritual experiences. Gender roles in faith are often seen as divinely designed.
    • Both men and women are created in God's image.
    • The interpretation of scripture is influenced by human perspectives.
    • Cognitive dissonance is prevalent in faith communities.
    • Inerrancy of scripture can reflect patriarchal biases.
    • Jesus elevated women in his teachings and actions.
    • The divine feminine can unlock new spiritual insights.
    • Historical context is crucial for understanding biblical texts.
    • Faith communities often struggle with contradictory beliefs.
    • A feminine perspective of God can provide healing for those with father wounds.

    Links:

    Book: https://tinyurl.com/k9c472uf

    Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/loved-called-gifted/id1627936653

    Web: https://catherine-cowell.medium.com/

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • 120: Lauren Cibene: Navigating Faith, Trauma, and Healing in India
    May 28 2025

    takeaways

    • Lauren's required reading is 'Life of Pi' for its depth.
    • 'Grapes of Wrath' illustrates systemic evil in society.
    • Growing up in a fundamentalist bubble shaped her faith.
    • Trauma led to a painful deconstruction of her beliefs.
    • Emotional prosperity gospel can distort faith expectations.
    • Therapy was a crucial step in her healing process.
    • Traveling to India was a leap of faith for her.
    • Cultural immersion helped her rebuild trust.
    • Trusting oneself is a vital part of recovery.
    • Vulnerability is essential for self-acceptance. Cultural connections can lead to profound moments of acceptance.
    • Alienation in evangelicalism can hinder personal healing.
    • Family dynamics often influence our ability to confront pain.
    • Transformative experiences can occur in mundane settings.
    • Liminal spaces encourage open-handed living and receptivity.
    • Reincarnation offers a different perspective on death and rebirth.
    • Travel fosters humility and a sense of wonder.
    • Navigating relationships requires understanding and compassion.
    • Certainty can be found in embracing uncertainty.
    • Deconstruction is a unique journey that requires patience and self-affirmation.

    Chapters:

    • Introduction and Warm Welcome
    • Literary Influences and Required Reading
    • Faith Foundations and Deconstruction
    • Trauma and the Crisis of Faith
    • Therapy and the Journey to Healing
    • Traveling to India: A Leap of Faith
    • Cultural Immersion and Trust Building
    • Rebuilding Trust in Oneself
    • Embracing Vulnerability and Self-Acceptance
    • Cultural Connections and Acceptance
    • The Alienation of Self in Evangelicalism
    • The Impact of Family and Community on Healing
    • Transformative Moments in Mundane Spaces
    • Liminal Spaces and Open-Handed Living
    • Reincarnation and Cycles of Life
    • Traveling and Humility
    • Navigating Relationships Through Change
    • Finding Certainty in Uncertainty
    • Embracing the Journey of Deconstruction

    Links:

    Website: https://laurencibene.com/

    Substack: https://laurencibene.substack.com/?ref=website

    Book: Tiger in a Lifeboat

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    59 mins
  • 119: Michael Gungor: Holy Integration: Music, the Sacred, and the Self
    May 21 2025

    takeaways

    • Bach's music exemplifies a pure expression of creativity.
    • Creativity flows from a dance between internal and external influences.
    • Individuality is a unique expression of the universal flow.
    • Consciousness transcends the boundaries of ego and identity.
    • The sacred can be found in everyday moments and experiences.
    • Rituals can help us recognize the sacred in our lives.
    • Creativity requires both chaos and order to flourish.
    • The ego can hinder creativity by imposing limitations.
    • Being present is essential to experiencing the sacred.
    • Every moment is an opportunity to find the sacred. Creativity involves a balance between chaos and order.
    • Both feminine and masculine energies are essential in artistic expression.
    • Shame in music can be addressed through honest, first-person narratives.
    • Theological language can perpetuate shame if not handled carefully.
    • Integration of different parts of oneself leads to a more holistic identity.
    • Non-dual perspectives can help bridge gaps in understanding spirituality.
    • The question of identity is central to personal growth and understanding.
    • Every part of us has a purpose, even those that seem negative.
    • Transcending old beliefs requires including them in our new understanding.
    • The essence of spirituality is recognizing our shared humanity.

    Chapters

    • Introduction and Setting the Scene
    • The Genius of Bach and Creative Flow
    • The Dance of Individuality and Ego
    • Consciousness and the Nature of Reality
    • Defining the Sacred in Everyday Life
    • Creativity: Balancing Chaos and Order
    • The Dance of Creativity: Balancing Chaos and Order
    • Navigating Shame in Music and Theology
    • Integrating Parts: The Journey of Self-Discovery
    • The Question of Identity: Who Am I?

    Links

    Music: Gungor Music

    Podcast: The Liturgist Podcast

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    1 hr and 11 mins
  • 118: Andy Root: Evangelism in an Age of Despair
    May 14 2025

    takeaways

    • Andrew Root feels most comfortable surrounded by his books.
    • The connection between humans and dogs is mystical and profound.
    • Andrew's childhood experiences with grief shaped his faith.
    • Lutheranism has a unique cultural context in the Midwest.
    • Evangelism should focus on consolation rather than mere conversion.
    • The church's role is to walk with people in their sorrow.
    • Modern society struggles with deep feelings of loneliness.
    • Evangelism is often misunderstood as a marketing strategy.
    • Andrew's experiences highlight the importance of community support.
    • The conversation emphasizes the need for a deeper understanding of faith. Rituals are essential for happiness in modern life.
    • Evangelism should not be seen as lifestyle marketing.
    • Luther's theology emphasizes God's presence in suffering.
    • Ministry of consolation is vital in addressing grief.
    • Suffering is a universal human experience.
    • Pilgrimage invites people to journey together in faith.
    • Joy and celebration are crucial in community life.
    • Happiness should not be the ultimate goal.
    • True contentment comes from connection with God.
    • Acknowledging grief allows for genuine joy.

    Chapters:

    • Welcome and Introduction to the Podcast
    • The Mystical Connection with Dogs
    • Life in a Monastic Cell
    • Growing Up in Lutheranism
    • Cognitive Dissonance in Faith
    • Redefining Evangelism in Modern Times
    • The Role of Consolation in Evangelism
    • The Role of Ritual in Modern Life
    • Evangelism vs. Lifestyle Marketing
    • Luther's Theology of the Cross
    • Ministry of Consolation
    • The Nature of Suffering and Grief
    • Pilgrimage as a Spiritual Journey
    • Joy and Celebration in Community

    Links

    Web page: https://www.andrewroot.org/about/

    Book: Evangelism in an Age of Despair

    Podcast: When Church Stops Working

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    56 mins