In this episode of It’s Not About the Money, we’re joined by Bernie Anderson—missions leader, podcast host, business consultant, and certified Growability coach. Bernie helps us reframe our ideas around sales and fundraising, showing how sales, when done with integrity and generosity, can become a transformative experience for both the giver and the receiver.

We talk about why fundraising isn’t a transaction but a transformation, why great fundraisers are great listeners, and how donor alignment is better than manipulation. Bernie shares wisdom on identifying donor personalities, avoiding burnout through authenticity, and how storytelling—done honestly—can drive partnership fruit.

If you've ever felt awkward "making the ask" or have been burned by manipulative sales tactics, this episode will feel like a breath of fresh air. Bernie reminds us that fundraising is discipleship, that rejection isn’t failure, and that there’s no such thing as “sacred vs. secular” when you're doing Kingdom work.

📚 Books + Articles

1. To Sell Is Human by Daniel H. Pink
   – A modern, research-driven take on how everyone is in sales, whether they realize it or not.
2. The Spirituality of Fundraising by Henri Nouwen
   – A short but powerful read framing fundraising as spiritual formation and invitation.

🎧 Podcasts

1. The Psychology of Fundraising: Part 1 and Part 2 (Counselor Panel)
   
   
2. NATM Episode 29.5 with Bernie Anderson
   
   
3. Global Trellis Podcast
   – Co-hosted by Bernie Anderson and Amy Young; supports cross-cultural workers in soul care and sustainability.
4. Growability Podcast
   – Focused on leadership, business development, and nonprofit growth; co-hosted by Bernie.

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“I was probably the wealthiest person in my family when I chose to go into ministry—then I had to go back and ask my family for money.”

“If God did it in my life, He can do it in yours.”

“If you’re not willing to be faithful, I can’t do much with you. But if you are—I got you.”

In this powerful episode, Tony Dentman of Funding Tribe joins hosts Heather and Andy to reframe the soundtrack of “This is impossible.” Tony shares his journey from inner-city St. Louis to full-time ministry, despite having no wealthy or Christian background. He explains how his organization empowers minority leaders to get fully funded and mobilized for mission. The conversation dives deep into character formation, faith-building, and the systemic lie that fundraising success is tied to privilege. A must-listen for anyone who has ever doubted their calling or resources.

🔗 Show Notes & Resources: fundingtribe.org

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In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Mandy returns to share her ongoing journey in ministry and fundraising. The conversation explores how ministry fundraising transcends mere numbers—it's about personal formation, genuine partnerships, and living out one’s calling. Dr. Mandy recounts her early introduction to support-based ministry, her refreshing re-engagement with longtime partners (including a memorable 5000-mile road trip), and the lessons learned from her leadership challenges. Interwoven with rich Scripture readings (notably from Second Corinthians and other Biblical passages), the discussion offers spiritual encouragement and practical insights on overcoming doubt, resisting the temptation to “fix” everything, and staying true to God’s word. Listeners are encouraged to lean into community, continuously study Scripture, and trust that every step—even the hard ones—is part of a greater divine plan.

Recommended Resources Mentioned:

• Perspectives courses (visit perspectives.org)
• Books: Mountain Rain by Eileen Fraser Crossman and The Prayer of Faith by James O. Fraser
• Scripture study tools: Logos, NAVS, Precept.org

Other Scripture for Reference:

• Revelation 15:3
• 1 Chronicles 29:11-13
• 1 Chronicles 16:31
• Psalm 9:7-10
• Psalm 103:19-22
• Psalm 96
• Psalm 93:1-5
• 1 Timothy 1:17
• 1 Timothy 6:15-16
• Isaiah 44:6-9
• Psalm 145:8-13
• 1 Corinthians 15:20-28
• Zechariah 9:9
• John 18:36-37
• Hebrews 1:3-4
• Hebrews 1:8-12

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