Sigstore creator, Chainguard CEO, OpenSSF TAC member and Season 1 guest Dan Lorenc returns to discuss the year in open source and security. Topics range from software supply chain management, hardening container images and SBOMs in limbo to open product companies and business models, including his own company's shift in focus this year. Plus: a look ahead to SecOps and AI in 2025.

S&P Global Market Intelligence principal research analyst Daniel Kennedy discusses what the results of his Voice of the Enterprise research project dating back to 2015 reveal about the notion of a cybersecurity skills shortage; the effects of the Crowdstrike outage on a long-running debate about unified cybersecurity platforms vs best-of-breed vendors; and hopeful signs heading in to the next decade of SecOps.

SecOps, developers and infrastructure ops teams are often encouraged to work more closely together within IT, but for one industry analyst, the CrowdStrike outage exposed an even more significant gap between IT and businesses.

Charles Betz is vice president and principal analyst for enterprise architecture at Forrester Research. He has also worked as an adjunct professor at the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minnesota, and as an enterprise architect at AT&T, Wells Fargo, Best Buy and Target. Following the CrowdStrike outage, Betz and a dozen other Forrester analysts collaborated on a report calling for a redefinition of enterprise resilience in the wake of the incident.

For Betz, the experience of Delta Airlines in the CrowdStrike aftermath is potentially instructive for improving business resilience.

"This was not a failure of IT disaster recovery," he said in this episode of Delta's weeklong ordeal. "This was truly a failure of business continuity…a shock to the physical system that couldn't be unwound without a lot of hard work."