• Ep. 18 - Eliminating Human Errors w/ Patrick Thomas

  • Mar 21 2025
  • Length: 1 hr and 13 mins
  • Podcast

Ep. 18 - Eliminating Human Errors w/ Patrick Thomas

  • Summary

  • What if AI-powered security could eliminate human errors in cybersecurity? Meet the founder making it happen.

    In this episode of Hackers to Founders, I sit down with Patrick Ben Thomas, the founder of NullZec and its advanced malware development division, Shadow Mask. Patrick shares his journey from early cybersecurity research to building a solution designed to eliminate human errors and prevent malware from spreading. We discuss how his team integrates sandboxing, zero-trust architecture, and in-house malware analysis to isolate and detect threats before they reach end users. He also dives into the offensive research behind Shadow Mask, where they develop real-world exploits to strengthen defenses. Tune in to learn how Patrick is blending adversary simulation with next-gen defense strategies to reshape cybersecurity.

    People

    • Patrick Ben Thomas (Guest, Founder of NullZec & Shadow Mask)
    • Kevin Mitnick (Famous hacker, cybersecurity expert)

    Companies & Organizations

    • NullZec (Parent company founded by Patrick Ben Thomas)
    • Shadow Mask (Malware development & adversary simulation division under NullSec)

    Products & Technologies

    • HackRF (Software-defined radio device used for security research)
    • BladeRF (Full-duplex SDR used for radio frequency security research)
    • Proxmark 3 (RFID/NFC security tool for cloning and emulation)
    • Flipper Zero (Multi-tool for hardware and RF hacking)
    • NFC Kill (Device used to destroy NFC-enabled cards by electromagnetic pulse)

    Cybersecurity Events & Conferences

    • DEFCON (Hacker conference)
    • Black Hat (Cybersecurity conference)
    • BSides (Security conference, mentioned as besides)
    • RSA Conference (Cybersecurity event)

    Cybersecurity Services & Platforms

    • VirusTotal (Malware analysis service, mentioned as insufficient for zero-day threats)
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