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Welcome to another installment of Suzanne's “Asking for a Friend” - a recurring series in The Spiritual Shitshow podcast where Suzanne brings in therapists, ministers, artists, content creators, and other amazeballs humans to chat about how to get through the shitshow of healing and awakening. Together, they dive into the big, messy, deeply human questions we all wrestle with. She’s not asking for herself, she’s asking for a friend. You’re the friend.

​It's a special two-part​er of Suzanne's Asking for a Friend with the wise, hilarious, and soul-shaking Rev. Linda Jackson of Cityside Spiritual Community in Chicago!

In this deep-dive conversation, we explore what it actually means to grow—both spiritually and psychologically. Because you can quote Rumi all day, but if you’re still projecting your unresolved trauma onto your coworkers… are you really evolving?

In Part 1, we introduce a powerful framework called the Four Aspects of Consciousness—originally created by Rev. Dr. Michael Beckwith and adapted in Rev. Linda’s coaching and spiritual teachings. The framework maps four distinct stages of awakening: To Me | By Me | Through Me | As Me

We start at the very beginning—the “To Me” stage—where life feels like it’s just happening to you. Victimhood, blame, powerlessness, and pain all live here… but so does the invitation to wake the hell up. Rev. Linda and Suzanne unpack this emotional terrain with humor, honesty, and a whole lot of compassion.

Whether you're knee-deep in your own "To Me" moment or revisiting an old one with new eyes, this conversation will help you feel seen, validated, and maybe even a little less alone on the ride.

Stay tuned for Part 2, where we explore the shift into “By Me” consciousness—and what it means to become an empowered creator of your life.

Learn more about Rev Linda Jackson: https://lindajackson.com/

Check out Cityside Spiritual Community in Chicago: https://cityside.me/

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