Ilana and Cristina get f*cking serious with Clinical Psychologist, Dr. Alisa Angelone, Ph.D. She’s done a lot of research, and we’re not talking about TikTok rabbit holes. She’s got some hot takes on anxiety and depression. Ilana confesses to screaming at her therapist (she has since apologized - and changed therapists). Cristina’s MIL (who happens to be a therapist) will not let her talk for more than 50 min, and now we know why. Alisa breaks down the meaning of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (No humans were caged for these therapies). Is finding a therapist a giant pain in the butt? It sure is! Dr. Angelone’s advice, check with your health insurance and have them send you a list and do your research - Psychology Today is a good resource.

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