Is the comic book community sabotaging itself? In this episode of the 4Outsiders Comics Podcast, we dive headfirst into one of the most contentious topics in fandom: gatekeeping, creator harassment, and whether fans are their own worst enemy. We share our personal experiences and debate if protecting the art form has turned into toxic behaviour.

Before that, we deliver our unfiltered reviews of this week's most talked-about comics. We start with a deep-dive into Dan Slott's Superman Unlimited #2. Does Superman's new 'golden form' break the character, or is it a bold new direction? We analyse the 'kryptonite Wakanda' and what feels like a Marvel-style approach to the Man of Steel.

Next, we tackle Jonathan Hickman's Avengers vs. Aliens. After a huge build-up, did the finale feel rushed? We discuss the missed opportunities with Mr. Sinister, the Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda, and whether this crossover lived up to its potential. Finally, we review a hidden gem: James Tynion IV's Exquisite Corpses from Image Comics, a dark and gritty story that feels like The Purge for the super-rich.

Join us for a passionate discussion on the best and worst of modern comics and the community that surrounds them. Let us know your thoughts in the comments!

We've had our say, but what do you think? Are comic fans their own worst enemy, or is gatekeeping necessary? Head down to the comments section on YouTube or Spotify and let us know your thoughts. Do you agree with us, disagree, or have a take from out of left field? We want to hear it.

(Podcast brought to you by Skylarking Media Inc.)Show Notes

• (00:00) Introduction: The crew assembles to discuss the latest in comics, minus one co-host who is humorously "imprisoned in Latvia".
• (01:39) Comic Review: Superman Unlimited #2: The team gives a scathing review of Dan Slott's second issue. Key discussion points include the "shock jock" writing style, the absurd concept of a kryptonite-based nation, and the controversial new 'golden form' power that makes Superman immune to his core weakness for 200 seconds.
• (17:40) Comic Review: Avengers vs. Aliens #4: A deep-dive into the finale of Jonathan Hickman's mini-series. The hosts express disappointment with the rushed ending, the perversion of established characters like the Hulk, and the many seeded ideas that were never explored.
• (34:45) Comic Review: Exquisite Corpses #2: A positive review of the James Tynion IV and Michael Walsh horror series. The premise of a "battle royale" orchestrated by America's richest families is explored, praising its fun concept and gritty art.
• (41:58) Main Topic: Are Comic Fans Their Own Worst Enemy?: The central discussion begins. The hosts debate the pros and cons of gatekeeping, the impact of social media outrage on the industry, creator harassment, and whether the community is welcoming to new readers.
• (1:08:28) Housekeeping & Outro: How to find the podcast, support the show, and what's coming up next week.

Summary

In this episode of the Four Outsiders Comics Podcast, the hosts engage in a lively discussion about their recent comic book reads, including Supergirl #2, New Avengers, and the Death of Silver Surfer. They explore themes of identity, representation, and the evolution of characters in the comic book world. The conversation highlights the importance of storytelling and art in comics, while also reflecting on the cultural impact of these narratives. The hosts share their insights and opinions, making for an entertaining and informative episode for comic book enthusiasts. In this engaging conversation, the speakers explore various themes in literature and comics, focusing on character development, the significance of representation, and the evolution of beloved characters like Tim Drake and Miles Morales. They discuss the emotional connections readers have with characters, the impact of storytelling, and the challenges faced by writers in modern narratives. The conversation also touches on the importance of cultural representation in comics, particularly through works like Synth Squad, and the complexities of character arcs in the DC universe.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Hosts

00:00 Cold Open

01:36 Introduction

05:21 Weekly Reads: Supergirl #2 Review

11:19 Discussion on Supergirl's Character and Themes

16:15 Bucky Barnes and the New Avengers

25:59 The Death of Silver Surfer: A Philosophical Journey

38:49 Caricatures of Wealth and Power

41:48 The Silver Surfer's Journey

46:19 Spider-Man's New Adventures

54:31 Marvel's Cosmic and Terrestrial Conflicts

01:05:58 Introducing Sim Squad: A Caribbean Sci-Fi Adventure

01:11:23 Character Development and Emotional Depth in Storytelling

01:14:25 Art and Dialogue in Caribbean Comics

01:14:46 The Problem with Tim Drake: A Deep Dive

01:15:29 The Evolution of Robin: Perspectives on Tim Drake

01:20:35 Fandom and Character Attachment: The Case of Tim Drake

01:31:03 The Future of Tim Drake and the Batman Legacy

Keywords

comics, podcast, Supergirl, New Avengers, Silver Surfer, Spider-Man, graphic novels, comic book reviews, superhero stories, comic book culture, literature, comics, Miles Morales, Anansi, Ares, Deadpool, Synth Squad, Tim Drake, DC Comics, character development

Summary

In this episode of the 4 Outsiders Comics Podcast, the hosts delve into the ongoing debate of storytelling styles in comics, contrasting finite tales with ongoing series. They discuss the pros and cons of each approach, the impact of popularity on comic series, and the role of editorial influence in shaping narratives. The conversation also touches on character development, audience expectations, and the importance of narrative integrity.

The hosts review the comic 'Bridgeland' and share their thoughts on recent comic releases, including a new Superman series by Dan Slott, ultimately reflecting on the future of comic storytelling. In this conversation, the speakers delve into various themes surrounding comic book narratives, particularly focusing on Superman's portrayal, the overuse of Kryptonite, and the challenges faced by writers transitioning between Marvel and DC. They also discuss the latest issues of Moon Knight, the state of the comic book industry, and the cultural implications of manga versus Western comics. The dialogue highlights the need for a deeper understanding and appreciation of both mediums, as well as the importance of nurturing new talent in the comic book industry.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Hosts

00:01 Cold Open

00:21 Disclaimer & Theme

01:16 Hosts Intro

03:00 Weekly Picks

01:00:09 Bridgeland Inquisition

01:15:29 Main Topic

01:51:14 Remembering Peter David

02:19:02 Housekeeping & Wrap

02:20:40 Post Credits Chat

Welcome to Episode 4 of the 4 Outsiders Comics Podcast! This week, your hosts Wade 'Rum Sour' Alleyne, "No-Codename" Marc, Michael "from Bleecker Street," and Glen "the Sage" dive into a fresh stack of comic books, sparking passionate debates, surprising agreements, and at least one controversial analogy for the MCU.Join us as we break down:Michael's adventures with Godzilla vs. America in Los Angeles – Is it a monstrous hit or a city-flattening miss?Glen's double feature: a classic X-Men/Godzilla team-up (or throwdown?) and the mystical realms of Doctor Strange of Asgard.Marc's pick, Red Sonja Attacks Mars No. 2, which leads to some very strong feelings and a trip down a "What If" rabbit hole.Wade's surprising new favorite, Supergirl #1, and why it's hitting all the right Silver Age notes with a modern twist.After the reviews, the big debate kicks off: Who is currently winning the comic book race – Marvel or DC? We dissect sales, storytelling, creator engagement, multimedia strategies (hello, "My Adventures with Superman"!), and the ever-present shadow of the MCU.Tune in for candid reviews, heated discussions, and plenty of comic book love (and sometimes frustration!). Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit that notification bell!Show Notes:Episode 4: Godzilla vs. Asgard vs. Mars vs. Supergirl! Plus: Who's REALLY Winning the Marvel vs. DC Race?The 4 Outsiders (Wade, Marc, Michael, and Glen) are back for another deep dive into the world of comics! Recorded on May 19, 2025, this episode tackles some wild new reads and then dives headfirst into the perennial debate: Marvel or DC – who's currently on top?Cold Open Snippet (from this episode!):(00:00:00 - 00:00:19 approx.) Wade shares a... unique analogy for his feelings about the MCU.Episode Breakdown & Comics Discussed:(00:00:19 approx.) Intro & Host Catch-upComic Reviews:(00:02:10 approx.) Michael's Pick: Godzilla vs. America (Los Angeles installment)Critique of art, story, and a particularly memorable (and questioned) reporter named Tom.(00:08:17 approx.) Glen's Picks:X-Men/Godzilla Crossover (classic 90s X-Men, Super-Adaptoid, kaiju battles)Doctor Strange of Asgard #2 & #3 (art praise, murder mystery plot, MCU comparisons)(00:23:53 approx.) Marc's Pick: Red Sonja Attacks Mars No. 2Nostalgia, absurdist humor, and a very strong reaction from Wade.Tangent: The Red Sonja/Wolverine "What If" marriage.(00:31:35 approx.) Wade's Pick: Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow #1Silver Age charm, modern storytelling, and an intriguing imposter mystery.(00:46:40 approx.) Main Topic: Who's Winning the Comic Book Race - Marvel or DC?Initial shout-out to Image Comics.Arguments for DC: Cohesion, respect for characters, strategic initiatives (Absolute line, bookstore presence, "My Adventures with Superman" as a positive multimedia example).Critiques of Marvel: MCU dependency leading to reactive storytelling, messy continuity, lack of creator engagement compared to DC's efforts.Discussion of what makes comics engaging and the impact of movie synergy on the source material.Where to Find Us & Support:The 4 Outsiders Comics Podcast releases new episodes on Mondays around 8 PM.Listen/Watch: YouTube, SpotifySupport Caribbean Indie Creators: Purchase digital or print comics from our friends at Alluhwi Comics: shop.alluhwicomics.com (that's A-L-L-U-H-W-I comics dot com)Follow Alluhwi Comics: On Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok for more great content!What are your thoughts? Let us know in the comments who YOU think is winning the comic book race!#AlluhwiComics #ComicBooks #Podcast #MarvelComics #DCComics #Godzilla #XMen #DoctorStrange #RedSonja #Supergirl #ComicReview #PopCulture #MCU #ComicBookDebate

This week on the 4 Outsiders Comics Podcast, we dive into a fresh stack of comics, question Marvel’s handling of Peter Parker, and spotlight a stunning indie find.We kick off with Michael's thoughts on DC’s Absolute Green Lantern No. 2, exploring its surreal art and unique universe, then move to Ram V’s Resurrection Man—a poetic, mythic ride through death-powered storytelling. Glen breaks it down beautifully. Marc brings the nostalgia with Captain Planet and the Planeteers No. 1, offering a sharp update of the classic with social commentary baked in. Wade wraps the main reviews with Space Quest the Johnny Quest/Space Ghost crossover, a delightful 1965-set crossover that captures retro charm with modern flair.Our main topic? Spider-Man. Is Marvel holding him back? We dig into Peter Parker's stagnation, the "luckless schmuck" editorial trap, and what real growth could look like—from relationships to his role in the Marvel Universe. Heated takes guaranteed.Finally, we shine a light on Harrison’s Grave by Jaye Smith, a jaw-dropping indie comic rooted in dark Caribbean folklore with adorable-yet-violent art that had us floored.Like smart comic talk, bold opinions, and indie recs? This one’s for you.Subscribe for weekly comic deep dives and reviews!New episodes every Monday on YouTube & Spotify.Support us & grab indie gems like Harrison’s Grave: https://shop.alluhwicomics.comShow Notes:(0:00) Intro & Weekly HaulInitial thoughts on this week’s pulls—Batman-free!(Approx. 0:05:15) Mike's Pick: Absolute Green LanternChapter 2 analysis: surreal visuals, “calm” Guy Gardner, existential stakesArt discussion + storytelling flowHon. Mention: Amadeus Cho 20th Anniversary Special(Approx. 0:21:30) Glen's Pick: Resurrection Man (Ram V)The team praises Ram V’s tone and world-building(Approx. 0:36:50) Marc's Pick: Captain Planet #1 (Dynamite)Gaia rework sparks debate; environmental themes dissected(Approx. 0:52:10) Wade's Pick: Jonny Quest / Space GhostSequel to Jonny Quest, crossover with Space Ghost’s crewWritten by Joe Casey, art by Sebastian PerezRetro fun meets grounded sci-fi(Approx. 1:06:25) Main Topic: Spider-Man’s Editorial StagnationIs Marvel sabotaging Peter’s growth?Debate: “Everyman” vs evolved heroRelationships, career, public identity—where should Spidey go next?Ultimate Spider-Man comparisons & editorial influence dissected(Approx. 1:33:40) Indie Spotlight: Harrison’s Grave (Jay Smith)Bridgetown-based folklore mayhemCute anime-styled art meets violent Caribbean chaos“Steven Universe meets folklore horror” energyManga-inspired visuals with strong voice(Approx. 1:43:00) Quick Hits & Wrap-upHon. Mentions: Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe, Black Canary, GSA, The Creeping Below, Into the Unbeing, and more.Tease for next week’s reads.Subscribe + support the pod via https://shop.alluhwicomics.com#4outsiderscomicspodcast #comicspodcast #spiderman #comicbookreviews #peterparker #marvelcomics #dccomics #alluhwicomics #indiecomics #graphicnovels

Welcome back to the 4 Outsiders' Comics Podcast! On Episode 2, the crew shakes off a "light week" declaration by diving deep into some heavy hitters and hidden gems, sparking passionate debates along the way.

Here’s what’s inside:

• Reviews Galore:

  • Wade explores Geoff Johns' Ghost Machine universe with Red Coat, dissecting its immortal British soldier, time-traveling Northerner, and Civil War intrigue.
  • The biggest debate erupts over Hickman's Ultimate Spider-Man! Is Peter Parker's married life and slow burn compelling character work, or just plain boring? The Outsiders are divided!
  • Glen introduces the portal fantasy action of Lost Fantasy, complete with comparisons to Dresden Files, Once & Future, and some surprisingly foul-mouthed dragons.
  • Michael tackles One World Under Doom, questioning Dr. Doom's think tank methods (and the writer's grasp of Red Hulk's gamma mechanics!), plus discusses comedic kaiju tales in Godzilla vs. America.
  • Marc recommends the supernatural procedural String, where a unique ability to see connections leads to mystery.
  • Alluhwi Comics Spotlight: The crew reviews Terror of the Midnight Robber, a unique Trinidadian comic bringing folklore figures to life with a Ghost Rider/Zoro vibe.

• Main Topic Deep Dive: Sliding Timescales vs. Character Aging

  • Should iconic heroes like Batman and Superman remain eternally youthful, or should they age, evolve, and pass on their mantles? The team discusses the pros and cons, touching on legacy characters (Wally West, Kyle Rayner), IP protection, the impact of sidekicks aging while mentors don't, and whether the never-ending soap opera model still works.

Expect the usual passionate opinions, friendly fire, inside jokes (Wade is a Batman stan!), and insightful analysis delivered with a distinct Caribbean perspective.

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